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In Survival, 'Second Place' is the First loser It is not a game   . . . it's your life    GUNS TO GRAB Always Consult With a Qualified Gun Store For Your Particular Needs! hunting, survival, and protection PERSONAL DEFENSE WEAPONS Alpine Group Background recording is from this .44 Magnum, Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter.       When you opened this webpage, you heard six consecutive shots from this .44 Mag. If I could only own one weapon, it would be the Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter with a 2X Leupold Scope. It will take down any North American game at closer ranges, and is a sure stopper for personal defense. A rifle is useless in close quarters, and semi-autos can jam when you least want them to. It is a proven design that has hunted and defended Americans for over a century. Besides, they are just way too awesome a revolver to not own one. Dear Alpine Group: My only intent is helping Christian families properly prepare as the Bible tells us to do. To prepare for bad times while in times of plenty. However, one should make no mistake that self-styled 'survivalist gurus' arming doom-and-gloom whacko groups need not apply! My service qualifications follow, and I am glad to help as I can. Sincerely, Gary D. Winstead, Sr. © Gary Winstead, Sr / © Alpine Group All Copyrights Reserved Image Courtesy Doc's Patriot Graphics Qualifications: Gary D. Winstead, Sr. Christian Field Representative, LEAA Michigan Department of Natural Resources Instructor Firearm/ Wildlife/ Survivalist Instructor National Rifle Association Rated Rifle/ Shotgun/ Pistol Instructor Tactical Weapons Instructor National Rated 3rd Level Rifle Sharpshooter National/ State Level Tactical Pistol Range Officer Vietnam Era Veteran Hospitalman 3rd Class USN Indemnification This entire website is for informational use only and is not intended to give definitive advise. You must consult with a locally licensed reseller of firearms or instructor for any such advice in that category. By proceeding, you agree to defend, indemnify and hold AlpineSurvival.com harmless from and against any and all claims, damages, costs and expenses, including attorney's fees, arising from or related to your use of the Site. If you do not agree to the above, then you must exit this website immediately. GUNS TO GRAB GENERAL INFORMATION FOR LAYMAN AND EXPERT 12 gauge pump shotgun (Remington 870, 1100, Mossberg 500) http://www.remington.com/ The sound of the pump action alone (when loading a shell into the chamber) has deterred many serious crimes before they could even occur. If you are on a budget or your wife has told you only "1" gun, this would be the choice of many professionals. And 12 gauge shells can be found most anywhere in the world, from Africa to America. 12 gauge shells come in many different styles. 00-Buck should be your first choice for a true man stopper in self-defense situations. Flettche rounds are 12 gauge shells loaded with 30+ mini arrows and can defeat most body amour at close range of 25 yards or less. This would be an excellent shell against rioting, murderous gangs that often wear body armor to evade police. Dragon breath 12 gauge shells spit a flame out the barrel that is most impressive, to say nothing of scarring the life out of a would-be perpetrator, and it they don't harm the barrel. 12 gauge shells came in a host of specialties and depending on the application can handle most any defense job that you ask of it. The Remington and Mossberg models have been chosen because of their reliability and simplicity, and choice of add-on special items that can be installed by non-gunsmiths. 2. 30.06 rifle (Remington 7400, 742, 740) http://www.remington.com/ To choose "1" rifle is a difficult decision. The rifle has many different applications and tasks required of it, so in this respect we will only dwell on the defensive issues of the rifle. Many would ask, "...why not the Colt AR-15 type rifle with its famous .223 caliber"? First and foremost the .223 rifle just does not have enough punch to get through most objects. Ask the saviors of Waco; most of the rounds fired into Mt. Carmel were .223 and 9mm rounds. All reports of the after shot read that the .223 shattered on impact hitting most wooden objects, and then hit the subject with little or no injury to them. Most .223 FMJ (Full Metal Jacket) rounds are lead filled under that metal jacket and have no retention after encountering any solid object of any kind. Only the military gets the good stuff, and my father is not a U.S. Army General, and neither is my mother. Second, the AR-15 type rifle is a very complicated rifle if one does not have firearm experience to operate and maintain it (cleaning, field stripping, etc.). Special Operation Groups laugh about the M16/AR15 craze that hit the public a few years ago, offering remarks such as: "…let them buy them all, we don’t want them"… Most SOGs carry M14s and H/Ks into the field when their life depends on their rifle. Their heavy field gun consists of an M60 in .308 caliber. Now, most can not afford a true M14 and no civilian can have an M60. So … what is left? Plenty! Most every hunter in America has a 30.06 in his or her firearm safe, either in semi-auto or bolt action, and some boxes of 30.06 rounds in their ammo collection. This caliber can punch through most houses and autos and will still carry enough blunt trauma to stop an adult in their tracks. Ask any WW2 veteran or Vietnam veteran and they will testify to the power of the 30.06 in combat situations. The Browning BAR 1918A1 in 30.06 was the most sought after weapon a platoon would ask for. Now my reason for the Remington semi-auto models in 30.06. This rifle can be turned into a " baby Browning 1918A1 " in semi-auto mode, by simply adding an extended magazine offered by several companies (10 rd). The 30.06 ammunition can be found in a wide variety of styles and even in Amour Piercing (AP). --Always check local regulations for the legality of any ammunition round and its proper use. Just because you bought it from source (a) doesn't necessarily mean that it is legal in location (b). 3. .22 cal rifle (Ruger 10/22) http://www.ruger-firearms.com/ Hands down, this is the best survival rifle anyone could have in virtually any situation that might arise. The after-market add-ons can all be done by a non-gunsmith and the performance is unbeatable. In a survival situation a .22LR (long rifle) caliber wound can be as fatal as HIV (AIDS). Not everyone can treat gunshot wounds, and a Ruger 10/22 will keep a head down, as readily as a 30.06 in a firefight. A 10/22 can be fired by almost anyone and it has virtually no recoil to scare the shooter into closing their eyes and shooting wild. The .22LR caliber is the cheapest and most readily found ammo. One .22 round costs about 2 cents compared to a 9mm round at 23 cents. A big difference when stocking a couple thousand rounds. One man can carry 2000 rounds on him; no other round can make that claim. Rugers 10/22s can shoot all day without having to be cleaned, and will feed any .22 caliber round in the marketplace (except the .22 WMR magnum). Ruger 10/22s can produce ½ in match groups at 100 yards -- and that is hard to beat. The price of a 10/22 is under $200, and for a few dollars more the 10/22 can be a top match rifle. http://www.winchester-guns.com Classic Sporter LT The new Winchester Sporter LT has noticeable improvements over its legendary namesake. "LT" could stand for lean and trim. The stock has been redesigned by David Miller to be thinner with a more open grip and trimmer fore-end for superb balance and function. Cut checkering. Classic action with claw extractor and fixed position ejector. 4. 9mm (Glock 17) http://www.glock.com First and foremost the Glock is the easiest to operate in non-experienced hands. Another plus, the design of the Glock is made to accommodate both left and right handed shooters. The lack of an external safety and hammer make this a foolproof pistol in any person’s hands. Reliability? In the National Tactical World Match, the Glock 17 was buried in sand 150 times and shot flawlessly by all 150 shooters in the match. Even under extreme conditions this handgun is built to last a lifetime, and it will feed all 9mm ammo in the marketplace. Why the 9mm, instead of the .45 caliber? First and foremost is ammo availability. The 9mm is the most common round found in the world. This round can be found in most any civilian home, or police station, or military base, and even gang hide outs. It is the choice of most law enforcement divisions and can be found in sporting goods stores or mom-and-pop general stores. Second, the 9mm can be handled by most shooters, male or female, without too much felt recoil. Very important for that follow up shot. A .45 cal pistol is extremely hard on a shooter’s hand and only a seasoned shooter can handle the recoil that is generated by a .45 caliber cartridge. There is no doubt that a .45 is more lethal than a 9mm. Still, more good pistol shooters have been scared off a range because someone handed them a .45 semi-auto. It either jumped out of their hand or the noise scared the hell out of them, compelling them to close their eyes while applying trigger pressure. The cost factor on .45 caliber ammo makes it a no-go candidate when compared to the cost of an equal amount of 9mm. Finally, I have yet to see a .45 caliber style pistol that has not had its problems; and most have to go to a reliable gunsmith to be field ready. Most any Colt .45 out of the box needs this work, save the special custom jobs by companies like Wilson. 5. Colt 1911-A http://www.colt.com A Glock will come out of the box ready for a match shoot, and when every dollar counts no one wants to send their new .45 to a gunsmith just to make it shoot a wadcutter type bullet. My personal choice for a functioning 9mm is the famous design by John M. Browning, the P-35, Hi-Power. It is a single action semi auto-loading pistol. However, this design is not for the beginner. More Browning Hi-Power designs are in military holsters than any other design in the world. Why? Because it works and even feeds ammo that 3rd world nations put on the arms market. Their are numerous aftermarket features that one can buy to upgrade their Hi-Power to a 1st class match grade pistol. I used two Browning Hi-Powers (1967 models) at two World National Tactical Shoots at Gunsite, Arizona, and outscored all but 23 shooters in 1997. The top shooter used a Glock M17 in 9mm, and most of the good old boys that shot 45s either had feeding problems or their follow up shot was so far off that the range judges ruled them dead. At a Tactical Match you are only allowed 3 seconds of exposure, and if the target is not down by then, you are ruled dead. I aced 9 out of 10 stages with my 1967 Browning Hi-Powers and the one stage that I blew was my fault, not the pistol's. I hope this helps somewhat in your search for the perfect firearm, in an emergency defensive situation. Conclusion: There are numerous firearms available today for the average citizen for hunting and personal defensive situations. This list of Guns to Grab is intended for the average American that has little if any firearm experience, and has made the decision that they will not be a victim but a victor in a true break down of toady’s society. It is my hope and prayer that our "America" will always shine as a light for the righteous and god fearing. "GOD BLESS AMERICA" Sincerely, Gary D. Winstead, Sr. © Gary Winstead, Sr / Alpine Group All Copyrights Reserved 30.06  vs  .308 Springfield M1A1A .308 For Experts Only! http://www.springfield-armory.com/ The choices I made in Guns to Grab were (1) for the individual that had never held a firearm before and, (2) for the ability to adequately defend themselves, (3) while staying on a budget and, 4) not have to be a semi-gunsmith to use and maintain the firearms. An expert's choice might be along the lines of a Springfield M1A1A Scout bush gun (in .308 caliber), or "Tanker" as it is known (shown below). That model is not (I repeat not) for the inexperienced. Among other things, it will eat your hand if held in the wrong place while cleaning or operating. The expert might think about making it a "Scout" style Model and place a 2.5x scope forward of the receiver (shown top) so that the eyepiece of the scope is over the rear leafs. Col. Jeff Cooper has shown this setup to be a very effective defense weapon. You can acquire your target a lot faster and with a little practice, who knows? My reason for the 30.06 over the .308 is merely blunt trauma at ranges under 100 yards. A Model 70 Winchester sniper rifle or an M-14 RDF … both .308s and both of these are excellent long-range rifles ... are excellent choices ... but Not for the novice. True, a .308 bullet has confirmed kills at 1000+ yards but only a few people can accomplish this act, and most hunters make their kills at 200 yards or less. Although it is not uncommon for hunters to stretch that shot to 300+ yards at camp or at home to impress their buddies. NATO has the .308 as their adopted caliber and most military battle rifles from EURO are .308 due to H/K Company contracts with government defense departments. The hottest new Tactical weapon round is the .224 BOZZ pistol round. It defeats "three" Class 3A body armor vests and will shoot through a Bradley or Humvee (HMMWV stands for High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV, pronounced Humvee®). It will be issued in H/K MP5s and Glock 20s to swat teams around the country. This is mostly due to the shootout in LA this summer where a couple of guys had on full body armor, and all the Officers were running to the nearest sporting goods shops to get 30.06 rifles to knock them down. The city paid for nine 30.06 rifles that day! A lot of today’s trauma plate armor is rated up to .308 caliber. My "imaginary battle" rifle is a Remington 742 carbine in 30.06 with a Harris bipod and a muzzle break ... with 6-24x 50mm scope and 10-round magazines. It would have 4x night vision capabilities from Aris Night Vision Company, accomplished by simply unscrewing the base and screwing on the NV ... a 1-minute exchange time tops. For about a $1000, one could put a fantastic weapon system together for day or night applications. It looks and acts like a baby Browning BAR 1918A2. I have tested it on trees and 4x4s and it chews them up, using AP (armor piercing) rounds. It is dead on at 200 yards ... and up close it is even more accurate. Sincerely, Gary D. Winstead, Sr. © Gary Winstead, Sr / Alpine Group All Copyrights Reserved The .50 BMG www.barrettrifles.com For a true long-range rifle, nothing beats a 50 BMG from a company like Barrett Rifles, where hits are recorded at 4,000 yards. .50 BMG rifles for civilians come in two action styles: a bolt action, and semi-automatic action. Several companies now manufacture civilian legal 50 BMG rifles, with single shot, and magazine feed bolt actions. Only one company manufactures semi-automatics. After much research on .50 BMG rifles with quality and cost in mind, The Barrett Rifle Company stands out by far as the best in their field. Barrett produces several models of 50 BMG rifles recording hits up to 4,000 yards. The 50 BMG cartridge was first developed for anti-aircraft and light armor tanks at great distances. The latest use of this round has been for sniper units deployed in various law enforcement agencies and military ‘black operation’ groups. In conclusion: I firmly believe that the next pages of American history will be written because of a 50 BMG rifle, defending law-abiding American citizens and the Constitution of the United States of America. "GOD BLESS AMERICA" Gary D. Winstead, Sr. © Gary Winstead, Sr / Alpine Group All Copyrights Reserved End of 'Guns-to-Grab' section... NEW AMMO SECTION Courtesy Doc's Patriot & Military Graphics Sporting Use  vs. Second Amendment What will they take away next? You know, I have a sneaking suspicion about the motives behind predator "re-introduction" programs. I suspect that they can later make grandiose claims that "natural predators" are taking care of game management and curtail hunting. Many politicians sit there and talk about the "sporting use" of firearms to justify their legality. In fact, this was how BATF was able to classify the Striker and USAS-12 shotguns as "destructive devices" that needed to be registered with the feds. They said those shotguns had no "sporting purpose" and as the bore size is over .50 caliber, classed them as DDs. Well, if hunting is taken away, then what does anyone "need" a gun for? Which is one reason my thinking is shooters ought to form rifle clubs and hold matches. As distasteful as it is to have to play these "it has sporting use" games, "sporting use" needs to be maintained beyond hunting. Shooting sports are in the Olympics and most liberal politicians don't know that; they think "sporting" means hunting only. So, they would be quite surprised when they start whining about certain rifles not having a "sporting use" and, bingo!, they actually do because they're used in matches and competitions and guess what, all the owners are in an actual rifle club that competes in matches. Not only is it good insurance ("Hey, look! Sporting use! Don't whine about our sporting use here!), it's good practice. And fun! I view "natural predator" programs with great suspicion for several reasons. One other reason besides the above is the fact that a lot of anti-hunting types have become employed with government game agencies to push their agenda from within. What better way to ban hunting than to present the case it isn't a viable game management tool anymore because the wolves and grizzlies are doing it? It's all typical "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" government BS. 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I found the link to your website while I was viewing the aviation art work on the Stewart Gallery website [website closed]. It was with fond memories I viewed the artwork displayed on this site as I have flown a number of the aircraft depicted in those paintings. I am a 48 year old ex Marine. I have formulated my survival plans and those plans do not include the US. I have long marveled at the so called "survivalist mentality." As one who has slept in the mud while various types of exotic tropical insects utilized me as a free lunch, as one who has had an deadly enemy present every day for years, I have experienced survival in a hostile environment first hand. As one who carried firearms in earnest to the extent that my weapon was essentially a part of my body, a part which at the time I considered more valuable then my gonads (basically you can survive without your gonads, but in a survival situation every other appendage is virtually indispensable, fortunately my body, although somewhat damaged, came through it all intact) and to the extent that my weapon was never out of reach and always at the ready 24 hours a day, I have often wondered how others will fare under similar and perhaps more distressing conditions. Many times I have asked my friends of a like mind: Just what exactly do you envision your future will be in a "survivalist" world? Where do you plan on going? During my enlistment I well remember waiting to go back to the "real world." A prospect that kept the survival instinct strong within me. But when you are already in the "real world" (and I later found out that that is in fact where I actually was, America is Fantasyland) and there is no "home," other then the patch of mud where you currently lay your head, how will your survival instincts and abilities fare under such conditions, especially when it is for an indeterminate period? What will the overwhelming majority of the inner city people do when times really get tough? What will be the result when you fire a weapon and the report carries for miles? What will you hunt when hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of desperate people are scouring the countryside in search of food. What will you do for ammo if the situation lasts a year or longer? Perhaps the most relevant question for myself today would be, how well and how long could I endure such circumstances again at my age? Fortunately I do not have any family so there is no need to address such concerns in my plans. 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